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Alfs 5:54 Sat Apr 15
Free Range Chickens
The missus has watched a few YouTube videos about chicken cruelty and insists on buying free range chickens.

Twice the price, half the meat. And far less fat to make the roast potatoes more tasty. And none left over to make a scrummy gravy..

They're on this earth to feed us, it's called the food chain. What are your thoughts of how the meat on your plate has been looked after?

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jfk 6:25 Sat Apr 15
Re: Free Range Chickens
Free range all the way in our household.Folk don’t think twice paying well over a fiver for a pint in a boozer and then moan about paying 12 quid for a chicken.
Chicken fat adds flavour to gravy,shouldn’t be anywhere near roast potatoes.

jfk 6:52 Sat Apr 15
Re: Free Range Chickens
Whilst on the subject when I was a kid salmon was a rare treat prior to the farmed muck that’s affordable nowadays.The favour between wild salmon and farmed are worlds apart.
Farmed salmon conditions have improved over the last few years but still has a shitty flavour about it.
Don’t get me started on imported prawns they’re cheap for a reason.

Sydney_Iron 7:48 Sat Apr 15
Re: Free Range Chickens
Always very sceptical of those Youtube docos, Chicken farms by and large are well run, regulated and they keep the birds in good conditions, you will always get the exceptions though, just like every other industry were a small minority do the wrong think cut corners keep the birds in cruel conditions etc, and these are the farms the filmmakers target I expect, after all what’s the point of showing a well run and humane farm? Maybe a tad boring without the cruelty angle etc.

Also a lot of these films are made by activist types, expect the filmmakers your wife has been watching are all Vegans………maybe look at some of there other docos, maybe got similar content on other animal farming.

BRANDED 9:33 Sat Apr 15
Re: Free Range Chickens
We can only farm animals that can be domesticated. They have something they are willing to give up for being farmed. None of them thought they’d end up in Auschwitz though. I personally like eating wild animals.

PwoperNaughtyButNot 10:18 Sat Apr 15
Re: Free Range Chickens
The constant push for efficiency and profit will always lead to battery farmed chickens.

Most companies would do well to understand that when they make decisions on how they treat their employees.

Unfortunately MBA’d CEO class mostly all work off the same text books so have no innovative ideas other than hire marketing to paint a prettier picture to what they are actually doing.

Most consumers fall for it so I guess it works …. Until it doesn’t and the whole thing collapses

PwoperNaughtyButNot 10:23 Sat Apr 15
Re: Free Range Chickens
jfk

Due to the amount of plastic the before mentioned companies have spewed into our oceans, the only way to eat salmon that is guaranteed to have no micro plastics in it is to eat farmed salmon - makes you wonder if they have achieved their goal

If you look at the news , narrative, marketing - things that can be made in a factory are being promoted as the safe and healthy food, they beat climate change and they make the you live forever

They are also cheaper to produce, predictable to produce, cheaper to transport and easier to market

We are all being played I’m afraid

PwoperNaughtyButNot 10:26 Sat Apr 15
Re: Free Range Chickens
Forget all the activist videos, activists rarely play with a straight bat either.

This little boy makes the most compelling case against eating meat you’ll ever hear:

https://youtu.be/tQIMJ648qgg

Get your missus to watch it, it will melt your heart

goose 10:35 Sat Apr 15
Re: Free Range Chickens
I wouldn’t worry too much about it, very soon all your meat will be grown in a lab.

BRANDED 10:42 Sat Apr 15
Re: Free Range Chickens
You would know

Lee Trundle 10:48 Sat Apr 15
Re: Free Range Chickens
I buy free range eggs.

Although I'm starting to wonder if there's any point. It's
difficult to say with any certainty what that label truly represents anymore, especially with avian flu going around.

Iron Duke 11:06 Sat Apr 15
Re: Free Range Chickens
I prefer to eat better quality meat, but less often, than loads of shit quality meat.

, 11:45 Sat Apr 15
Re: Free Range Chickens
I echo what Duke has said. Regarding chicken the increasing industrialisation of production over the years has rendered today’s cheap chicken as tasteless in comparison with the chicken put on our table in my boyhood.

Knowing someone who has recently left the catering business I have also inherited a golden rule from him about eating chicken when out and that is only eat it if it is an obvious wing, leg or breast. On offer to the catering industry at dirt cheap levels is a vast amount of mechanically recovered chicken. So no Colonel Sanders, Nando’s or chicken biriany for me.

Willtell 11:45 Sat Apr 15
Re: Free Range Chickens
I used to keep free range chickens and ducks and geese on our large pond. It was lovely to have fresh eggs and letting Bantams go broody and raise youngsters but couldn't bear killing the young cockerels for meat.

When we found someone to do it for us the meat was often stringy and not good because they were fit from all the running around the fields and eating natural insects and worms I suppose.

Gave it all up after several fox and badger raids killed them. They would break into the chicken and duck houses and kill them all but only take one to feed on. It was too depressing to keep starting from scratch only to find a few months later that they had all been killed again by another fox or badger. Nature is cruel. I managed to kill several foxes by sitting outside at night quietly waiting for those lovely pretty foxes townies love so much with my 12 bore...

Tomshardware 11:54 Sat Apr 15
Re: Free Range Chickens
Having worked on a farm and seen animals slaughtered right in front of me it changed my perception on things. These are intelligent animals, in some cases more intelligent than your pet dog.

Side of Ham 11:55 Sat Apr 15
Re: Free Range Chickens
Willwall = Mr Benn

overbyyer 11:57 Sat Apr 15
Re: Free Range Chickens
, wrote...

Re: Free Range Chickens
I have also inherited a golden rule from him about eating chicken when out and that is only eat it if it is an obvious wing, leg or breast. On offer to the catering industry at dirt cheap levels is a vast amount of mechanically recovered chicken. So no Colonel Sanders, Nando’s or chicken biriany for me.




KFC is still obviously chicken pieces, provided you avoid the nuggets and strips etc. Having said that, the quality nowadays is poor.
Anyone remember having spare ribs from KFC back in the 80's - waking up after a big night out with a face and clothes covered in red BBQ sauce?

Eerie Descent 12:03 Sat Apr 15
Re: Free Range Chickens
I'd really like to pretend I gave a fuck about what happened to the animal I'm eating, but if I truly did, I'd be a vegan. To be honest, I've got other things to worry about

If do a chicken roast, I'll get a fancy one if available, if not, I'll get what they have. With chicken, I depends what you do with it mostly in terms of what it will taste like.

However, eggs are a different story, always get posh eggs if they have them, as they definitely are miles better.

nychammer 12:14 Sat Apr 15
Re: Free Range Chickens
If you can sit and watch through a video or two about where our meat comes from and then still happily eat meat then great. Personally I think all kids should be exposed to this (maybe they do this in schools - they used to I think - I recall we did).

I'm at peace with it but I strongly prefer only chicken and fish to the red meats.

Willtell 12:14 Sat Apr 15
Re: Free Range Chickens
Side of Ham wrote...
"Willwall = Mr Benn"
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Was Mr Benn one of your playground mates?

Thanks for your wonderful insights on any subject I post on. IWe'll all be glad when you grow up and can leave the playground...

Side of Ham 12:56 Sat Apr 15
Re: Free Range Chickens
Willwall, can’t you take up word searches to keep your brain active for a man of your age rather than bore us all with your Groundhog Day antics on here. Your past ramblings have often been of the scumbag variety and you should know it can’t be forgotten by many….hence the type of insights you get on here….

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